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Imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni
21 – 01 – 1436 AH
14 – 11 – 2014 AD
The bridling reply from the Imam to Mulham, and the Truth manifested and praise be to Allah the Lord of the worlds..
In the name of Allah the All Merciful, the Most Merciful
Allah’s peace, mercy and His blessings be upon you assembly of the best foremost supportive helpers and Allah’s peace upon the searchers about the Truth at the table of dialogue, as for now its revealed to all what is the secret from the evading of the astronomer Mulham and his delaying of downloading the pictures which he took photographed for the moon’s rise after the sunset on Thursday the night of Friday at the appointed time of the call for Maghrib prayer (after sunset prayer), and the secret was revealed to all at first of the matter of Mulham’s delaying and his evading of downloading of the picture until we provoked him and challenged him and we said either that you download the picture, if not; then you are of the liars. So we made Mulham in front of two situations the sweetest of them is bitter; the he downloads the picture to be a testimony in the Truth onto the truthful declaration of Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni about the moon’s rise after sun’s hiding behind the veil on Thursday and precisely at the appointed time of Maghrib prayer (after sunset prayer)for the night at entering the night of the blessed Friday, but Mulham you found him evading the image download for it will be a judge in the truth upon the actual reality testifying in the moon’s rising after sunset of Thursday at the appointed time of the call for Maghrib prayer (after sunset prayer).
And the picture cam in ratification for the declaration of the Imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni by all measures and violating to the declaration of the astronomer Mulham Hindy by all measures for the fact of the declaration of the astronomer Mulham Mohammad Hindy is: That the moon’s rise on Thursday will be before sunset of Thursday, and we repeat: The declaration of the astronomer Mulham Mohammad Hindy is: That the moon’s rise on Thursday will be before sunset of Thursday the night of Friday.
As for the declaration of Imam Mahdi Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni is: Indeed the rise of the moon on Thursday will be after sunset of Thursday the night of Friday, precisely at the appointed time of the call for Maghrib prayer (after sunset prayer) in the horizon of the Honored Mecca the center of the earth and the universe, in the fact the overtaking is according to the date calculation and the appointed time of Allah’s magnified House the sacred mosque which is in Becca the Honored Mecca the center of the earth and the universe.
And Allah made this picture a judge in the Truth that the moon’s rise at the horizon of the Honored Mecca is really-truly after sunset of Thursday so had rise at the appointed time of the call for Maghrib prayer (after sunset prayer) in the sacred mosque. The picture testifies in the Truth as follows:
In any case the Truth has manifested and would not deceive the most ignorant human in the worlds the deliberate defaulting in the truth by the astronomer Mulham Hindy after what was revealed to him that it is the Truth and the moon did not rise according to the astronomical appointed time-calculation; in fact it was different even in the timing of the moon rise according to the calender of Um Al-Qura the honored Mecca for in reality the calender of Um Al-Qura declares that the moon rise on Thursday will be before sunset of Thursday which is before the Maghrib call of prayer in thirteen minutes the moon rises at the horizon the honored Mecca at the hour five and thirteen minutes exactly, as for the call for the Maghrib prayer would be the five and forty three minutes, this means that the moon rise according to the calender of Um Al-Qura will be before sunset of Thursday then the people of Mecca see it at the eastern horizon of the honoed Mecca just before Thursday’s sunset and before Maghrib prayer by thirteen minutes. But folks the Truth has manifested so you found the moon truly was late in it rising till after sunset of Thursday; in fact got late till when the call for Maghrib prayer for the night of Friday in the sacred mosque by the local-time of the honored Mecca, and you see the moon when the call for the prayer corresponded at the appearance of the moon at the eastern horizon of the honored Mecca.
As I hope the picture to copied which Mulham brought in his statement to download it in this statement of mine and it is the same picture which Mulham forward it, and this is one of the proofs that the sun overtook the moon therefore the moon rise and set has changed and the timing of prayers did not change a thing for the fact the timing of prayers are not according to the rise and set of the moon; but the prayers are according to the sun’s rise and set. So look to the calender of Um Al-Qura saying that the moon rise at the horizon of the honored Mecca is before the appointed time of Maghrib prayer call on the night of Friday by thirteen minutes which is before Thursday’s sunset the moon would be at the horizon of the honored Mecca which is the timing of the moon rise at the honored Mecca’s horizon, so look at the date and the timing of the moon rise on 13 Muharram – 1436 for Thursday as follows:
The rising of the moon Maghrib (after sunset)
But you are witnessing the moon rise at the Honored Mecca’s horizon happened at the exact time when the calling of Maghrib prayer on the night of Friday.
Then we come to the main and basic proof to the sign of overtaking; as we taught you yesterday that was taken by surprise the virtuous sheikh Sulayman Al-Manea a member of the senior scientists committee about the moon set sometimes before sunset and it came different according to the moon’s set in the calender of Um Al-Qura of the honored Mecca, and he requested a scientific explanation about the reason of this phenomena, so he directed his request to the teachers of the astronomers in the city of Abd Al-Azeez of astronomy. and the question that comes up; did we find the astronomers in the city of Abd Al-Azeez that they gave an advisory opinion to Sulayman Al-Manea by the scientific logic in the scientific reason for the birth of the crescent before the pairing and it’s setting before the sun? so look at their reply to the astronomer and a member of the commitee of Hijri year claender of Um Al-Qura the virtuous sheikh Abd Allah son of Sulayman Al-Manea a member of the senior scholars and member of the Hijri year calendar of Um Al-Qura surrounding the phenomenon of the crescent’s birth before sunset though it sets before the sun, not ever will you find they have a scientific answer for the fact they do not know that the sun overtook the moon so ponder in their answer:
“The city,” said in clarifying to the scientific explanation requested by sheikh Abd Allah son of Sulayman Al-Manea Senior Scholars member and member of the Hijri year on the phenomenon of the birth of the crescent before sunset Although Wester accepted, “and before starting the scientific explanation want to King City Abdul Aziz City for Science and Technology to explain it since it adopted the Hijri year it strives to develop and improve, and that by a galaxy of scholars and specialists in several areas to complement the views, and the city was and is still actively involved in the monitoring committees Crescents issued by Royal Decree approval since 1418 until now. “The City” and clarify Here are some concepts and the scientific foundations pictures and illustrations that show how this pairing and the concept of the birth of the crescent (with reference to all charges and images in this scientific explanation is for illustration only and did not take into account the natural sizes of celestial bodies): First: for the sizes of the three bodies (the sun, the earth and the moon), the sun is roughly equivalent million times the size of Earth, while the size of the moon is equivalent to a quarter of the size of Earth only, meaning that the sun size equivalent to nearly four million times the size of the moon. sees the beholder of the Earth’s surface convergence in the sun and the moon size so as to cause the large distance between the Earth and the Sun, where the distance between them (150 million kilometers), almost while the moon closer to the land and much of the distance between them (about 380 thousand kilometers), meaning that the sun farther from Earth than the moon about (400 time). Secondly, when we talk about (the pairing) is intended is the moment where the three bodies centers are (the sun, the earth and the moon) at one level in the space, and this is the scientific definition of the coupling, a global moment agreed upon between scientists and can be calculated accurately very large, as shown in Figure 1. If you become three bodies centers in the line of sight, and one that result in: 1. occurrence (Eclipse) to the sun if the moon between Earth and the sun, as in Figure (2). 2. occurrence (eclipse) to the moon if the land between the moon and the sun. It is God’s mercy and grace that eclipses do not occur every month because of Milan axis of rotation of the Moon around the Earth nearly five degrees from the axis of rotation of the Earth around the sun, so the three bodies (the sun, the earth, and the moon) if At one level, the moon sometimes be higher line of sight and sometimes be the bottom, as shown in the form of (3). As for the shape of the new moon, it varies from month to month, depending on the position of the sun for the moon, and scholars designate by into three categories: 1) Crescent Shami: which is the direction of the horns to the north of the observer from the earth. 2) Crescent Yamani: which is the direction of the horns to the direction of the south of the observer from the earth. 3) Crescent heavenly: and that is the direction of the horns to the direction of the sky (to the top) of the observer from the earth. As is illustrated in Figure (4). The beginning of the new month (the emergence of a string of light from the moon) mostly takes a period of time after pairing vary from month to month may exceed the clock in some cases, because the reason for the difference this time for several reasons, including: – the distance between Earth and the sun: where the land is in some seasons of the year the fastest in its rotation around the sun from the other during the year. – The distance between the moon and the earth: as well as the moon is in some days faster in the rotation around the earth on other days during the lunar month. The interpretation of these two reasons is that orbits in which the spin orbs elliptical (oval) and is not completely circular, making it subject to physical laws created by God in order to maintain the balance in their orbits. We can see this clearly when a total solar eclipse happens. and can not see the new crescent month, but after that departs Moon Center for the center of the sun after their meeting at the moment (pairing) or (Almhak) a distance sufficient to allow the emergence of a string of light (Crescent) in the moon, and the following figures show the stages of the separation of the moon from the sun after a moment Pairing: 1) This case illustrates the moment of the association, which is Moon where in the process (Almhak) and be the face of the moon opposite to the ground completely opaque. 2), and after a period of time passage (as we pointed out to him previously from time to time) away Moon Center for the center of the sun is different, and the face of the moon is still opposite the land dimmed, and such a case, you get In the months that pointed her Sheikh Abdullah Al Manea and Ocklt it, as the moon Wester before the sun, although the pairing has been no light appears in the moon after. 3) With the continued movement of the moon and its distance from the center of the sun, begins to separate from the sun even up to a point that allows the light to emerge from the edge of the moon. Here we can say that the crescent of the new month may Is, and have a chance View Crescent best as we head to the west on the earth’s surface, where the moon later than the sun slowly Wester moon after sunset, as in (Figure 5). It is already clear to us: 1) that the pairing means the beginning of a new cycle of the moon does not mean the beginning of the new month. 2) takes the moon period of time after the occurrence of pairing up the thread of light shows and different this time from month to month. We note here that the Hijri year took into account such things and took the prerequisites, namely: 1) be a pairing has been before sunset in Makkah. 2) Moon after the sun in Mecca. These two conditions go hand in hand is not enough for one of them to prove entering the month, but must achieve two conditions together. and made the King Abdul Aziz City for Science and technical thanks to Sheikh Abdullah Bin Sulaiman Al Manea his attention to this vital topic of Balohlh and Hijri year, and estimated to eminence confidence in the city and commending the efforts undertaken and carried out in the field of development Hijri
Then we say O Mulham do not say against us of what we have not said it that the moon meets with the sun then it returns backward; so this is not logical, and we did not say that in fact we spoke in the Truth O Mulham and we have said to you many times and repeatedly that the overtaking is because the impact of Planet Saqar (Planet X Niburu) onto the sun only and not directly, but the sun in its turn affected the moon’s self movement and did not affect the movement of its known astronomical orbiting and for that the timing of the solar eclipse and the lunar eclipse dose not change, and you know that for the moon are two movements, so when we say Planet Saqar (Planet X Niburu) did not impact the moon’s movement we mean Planet Saqar (Planet X Niburu) did not affect yet in the direct impact upon the movement of the moon and earth, and indeed impacted the movement of the sun so tugging happened between the sun and earth upon the moon, but the earth still maintain astronomical movement of the moon in the system of its astronomical orbiting , but the sun affected the moon’s self movement, and her is the tie-down of the horses, for the fact the crescent being born because the moon’s self movement and not the because the axis-rotational movement. And we do not reveal more than this in the secrets of the overtaking in fact Mulham and who was of his like may adjust his new dates based on the astronomical secret point so he would establish that on the upcoming months’ calculation then speaks in the same logic of Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni, then he would say ” it is the same of what we have and everything is normal, and no occurring of any imbalance, and Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni depends upon our astronomical information”! Then Mulham comes up with a statement identical to my statement or even before issuing my statement deliberately defaulting, so here he is defaulting his own self by his photographing to the moon’s rise at the honored Mecca’s horizon at the timing of Maghrib prayer’s call the night of Friday then he said: “in fact the moon had rise before sunset on Thursday”. O praise be to Allah he is fast holding in his astronomical information despite that he sees the actuality an eye seeing came contrary to his astronomical calculations then he comes up with justifications and mixing-up from his own self! Although we do not belie in the scientific knowledge of physics of the astronomers and we believe in its precision but the sun overtook the moon so the crescent was born before the solar eclipse due to its increased speed of itself (movement) which causes the birth of the crescent’s (new phase), as for its axis movement or we rather name it by the more correct name (around itself) by the more correct meaning for the fact its axis movement is around its self movement as for the moon are two movements, there is no problem in my differing with the astronomers’ in the scientific astronomical terms for I will let them know in the intended though in reality there is three movements for the moon and they are:
The movement cosmic pace astronomical orbiting for the heavenly body in its known orbit and there is no relation for this movement in generating the birth of the crest of the month for the fact that the birth of the crescent is because its self movement. Perhaps one of the questioners would like to say: ” we learned that for the planets are two movements only and they are around itself and around the sun”. Then we reply to hime by the Truth and I say: But I know that the sun is not the center of the earth and the universe; in fact the earth is the center of the universe, and all the plants and stars rotate around the earth, and we do not want to enter a dialogue in the dialogue so we do not divert the focus off the overtaking sign for the sun and the moon in ratification for one of the major signs of the Hour, upon any case despite that we raise the argument regarding the delay of the moon’s rise against Mulham and the calendar of Um Al-Qura but we do not want to make that an excuse for the fact the rising and the setting varies from one location to another and we want to argue the humans by the cosmic event in space, and what is the main and basic cosmic event? It is the birth of the crescent before the pairing because of the speed to itself movement so it becomes in the state of overtaking in fact it is born before the pairing so definitely the sun gets to be to the east of it then it becomes in the state of overtaking so the moon continues in the flowing by its space movement until it meets with the sun.
O Mulham the astronomer, if would bring to our site a number of astronomers the acknowledge ones we would have taught you what you did not know and we would have increased you in knowledge by Allah’s permission in what is not known and the pen had not write it except in the secrets of the True statement for the Quran. For example Allah have created the sky in the two middle days for the fact the ordinance of foods I do not find it in the Book that it was directly after creation of the earth for a scientific wisdom, in fact after two thousands of what you count He ordained its foods.
And I do not want to get out off the dialogue in the sign of overtaking so we come out with a conclusion in the matter of the overtaking sign, and the dialogue is still continuing between the Awaited Mahdi and the astronomer Mulham Mohammad Hindy, and peace be upon the messengers, and praise be to Allah the Lord of the worlds..
Your Brother Imam Mahdi Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni